Centless in Seattle: The New Soda Tax Saga
by meep
Thanks to @HostaDaylily for my series name.
Let’s hope it lasts.
So, I already had a kick-off post, but I’ve found so much more since then.
Here is Jon Gabriel, better known as @exjon on Twitter, talking about the new tax:
Where will all the new revenue go? Seattle officials expect a $15 million boost in the first year. Since this was sold as a health initiative, $2 million of that will expand a city program that gives fruit and vegetable vouchers to low-income families. Of course, only $400,000 will go to actual vouchers; the other $1.6 million stays with the government for “administrative costs.”
Philadelphia, which enacted a similar tax last year, overestimated the expected revenue. Sales of carbonated soft drinks fell 55 percent inside the city, while sales rose 38 percent in the towns that surround it. It achieved neither the financial goals nor the health goals.
When the Seattle tax was first proposed, a “racial-equity analysis” found that diet beverages should be included since they are more popular among whites and the wealthy people. The politicians shot this down since they know which constituents donate to and vote for them.
Wait.
What?
This isn’t even about sugar, if you’re taxing diet sodas. What the heck?
Like most of these beverage taxes hitting blue cities, what is and is not included are counter-intuitive. All meal replacement drinks, powdered mixes, and most sugary coffee drinks — such as those found at local mega-company Starbucks — are exempt.
A lot of those sound like, oh, I dunno, things popular among whites and/or wealthy people. Why not tax those, too?
So, if you buy a bottled lemonade, you pay the tax. If you buy Kool-Aid and mix it with water at home, no tax. If you buy a Venti Brown Sugar Shortbread Latte at Starbucks, the tax doesn’t apply. If you get a Tall Brown Sugar Shortbread Frappuccino, which has less sugar, it does.
Oh, man, I remember mom buying the Koolaid mix that DID NOT have the sugar in it. When we made the mistake of mixing it up without sugar… BLECH.
WHEN THE TAX IS EVEN HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY TRIED IN CHICAGO
Sticker shock over Seattle’s new sugary drink tax:
People are feeling sticker shock over Seattle’s sugary drink tax.
You might’ve seen a picture circulating on social media that shows a more than $10 tax on a $15.99 case of Gatorade at Costco. On Friday, shoppers were taking their own pictures, stunned by the new prices.
Advocates of the tax held a press conference on Friday, to explain how the city plans to use the $15 million expected to be raised from the tax in 2018.
One Costco shopper loaded a case of Coca-Cola into her cart, not noticing the new price until KIRO7 pointed it out.
“That much!” said Vilma Villagran, who was buying the case for her family.
The regular case of Coke is now $7.35 more expensive than the Diet Coke or Coke Zero.
“I knew it was going to be high, but not that crazy high,” Villagran said.
Other shoppers closely read the sign, which explains that as of Jan. 1, Seattle shoppers are paying 1.75 cents per ounce on sugar-sweetened beverages – something shoppers are really noticing when buying in bulk.
The tax has many people opting for the diet soda.
Supporters of the tax said that’s the point – not necessarily to switch to diet soda, but getting consumers to go for healthier options.
“I’m just very excited,” said Jim Krieger, who is on the committee for Seattle Healthy Kids Coalition and is the executive director of Health Food America.
“The hope is consumption of the unhealthy product — which causes heart disease, diabetes — will go down, the sugary drinks to go down, and we fully expect that to be the case,” Krieger said.
The other purpose is tax dollars.The $15 million Seattle expects to raise from the tax will go toward programs that will help people who are in need have better access to fresh fruits and vegetables. The money will also fund education programs. See the full breakdown provided at the end of the article.
I will provide the breakdown shortly, but I wonder if Seattle factored in their presumed goal of reducing sugary soda consumption as part of determining what their expected take would be.
Breakdown of sugary beverage tax allocations, as provided by Seattle Healthy Kids Coalition:
Programs that the City Council has approved funding ($5,658,494) for in 2018
already include:Fresh Bucks, Food Action Plan ($2,404,359)
13th Year Promise Scholarship ($1,381,885)
Innovation High School, Summer Learning, Summer Melt ($1,004,500)
Our Best ($189,000)
Parent-Child Home Program ($525,000)
Food Banks ($153,750)Proposed investments ($4,120,639) awaiting review by CAB in Spring 2018:
Farm to Table
Fresh Bucks to Go
Food Banks
Out-of-School Time Nutrition Program
Early learning programsIn addition to these investments, revenue from the new sugary drinks tax will also support evaluation work ($500,000) to track the tax’s effectiveness and impacts, job retraining support ($500,000) for those employed within the local distribution network for the beverage industry and general administrative support ($1,082,000) in city government.
I love the term “investments” when it comes to spending tax money. Makes one all tingly inside.
Do the people paying the soda tax get updates on how their “investments” are faring?
Here’s my main question, though: what is the money heirarchy here? If the take is less than $15 million, am I to assume that the $1 million to the city government is guaranteed, and the non-government-money is less guaranteed?
Just asking questions.
SEATTLE SODA TWITTER
Let’s see if I can find more reactions.
"Oh well, I’m sure this foolish new soda tax will turn out fine just like Seattle’s foolish minimum wage hike." https://t.co/O6xiu80WXA
January 6, 2018
LOGIC:
This story on the price impacts of Seattle soda tax is bananas. Thread coming. "Sticker shock over Seattle's new sugary drink tax" https://t.co/UYMfHx9E46 via
KIRO7Seattle</a></p>— Scott Drenkard (
ScottDrenkard) January 7, 2018
2/ First they interview people at the Costco who are rightfully shocked at how high prices on soda and sports drinks are now (they are almost doubled) pic.twitter.com/uRlEnjHSD0
— Scott Drenkard (@ScottDrenkard) January 7, 2018
3/ Then they interview a public health advocate who says "that's right! We want these prices to change people's behavior and slow sales!" pic.twitter.com/olxJTdGYne
— Scott Drenkard (@ScottDrenkard) January 7, 2018
4/ Then they talk to the consumer, "think you'll change your behavior, maybe even shop somewhere else?" And she's like, "ya the Tukwila store is close enough." Then they ask a city council member if this will hurt local biz, who says "there is no data" suggesting that. pic.twitter.com/LkK2B2FWtN
— Scott Drenkard (@ScottDrenkard) January 7, 2018
What’s really funny about all this is that this has already played out inboth Philadelphia and Cook County. One really knows how this is going to play out in terms of border stores getting a boost, and in-town convenience stores getting whacked.
6/ You can't have it both ways people! The tax is either big enough to elicit behavior change, which would slow sales and hurt local biz and potentially reduce calories, or it isn't. Get your stories straight!
— Scott Drenkard (@ScottDrenkard) January 7, 2018
Amusingly, this is the exact same “reasoning” in Cook County, but it was a bit more fraught there, as Cook County was facing budget cuts (and got them once the soda tax was rescinded). I don’t know if Seattle is similarly hurting for revenue. It could be.
When is sugar not sugar? When it's all fruit juice or comes from Starbucks. #Seattle sugar tax prices explained. https://t.co/GDfFSvwm2C
— Sue Lani Madsen (@SueLaniMadsen) January 5, 2018
Seriously, this is exactly the same as Cook County — except a higher tax rate. This is absurd.
I’m really looking forward to the Mike Bloomberg ads he’ll play in Seattle. He’s got ads to play in Seattle, right?
Businesses around Seattle are passing a new excise tax directly onto consumers and using misleading information to do so—and consumers are falling for it. https://t.co/qsmC11JlS4
— Hanna Brooks Olsen (@mshannabrooks) January 6, 2018
Oh, you silly people. Taxes are always passed onto the consumer. Where do you think the distributors/retailers get their money? The soda fairy? All the money ultimately comes from those who buy the soda.
(note: I need more good DUMBASS gifs)
Apparently, Chicago repealed its soda tax. I repeat: Chicago, Seattle. In other words, get hold of yourself. You're looking sillier than normal. https://t.co/MN4GFMZXE8
— Bryan Myrick (@BryanMyrick) January 8, 2018
Richzeoli</a> what kind of idiot would pay 68% <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seattle?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seattle</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sodatax?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#sodatax</a> ? worse than Fed Inc Tax. Wonder if Seattle-ites have figured that out? But then again, nothing makes sense anymore.</p>— Mellie Camp (
melliecamp56) January 8, 2018
The year is 2019 the people have dealt enough with #Seattle city council and their #sodatax , in protest they steal many crates of Coca-Cola and dump it into the already disgusting harbor yelling "No taxation without representation!"
— Mistress Machivella (@LadyMachiavelIi) January 8, 2018
In all seriousness stop this nanny state shit
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Gatorade</a> is taxed by Seattle’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sodatax?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#sodatax</a>. Gatorade contains electrolytes like sodium and potassium which athletes need. The members of <a href="https://twitter.com/SeattleCouncil?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">
SeattleCouncil don’t know anything about sports & athletics. Its evident on their poor choice ofKeyArenaSeattle</a> as a viable pro sports venue.</p>— #GoHawks ®️ (
deuceohsixx) January 8, 2018
Is sugar an electrolyte? I have no idea.
They're calling the Seattle soda tax 'a recovery fee'.
Recovery for what exactly?SeattleCouncil</a> <a href="https://t.co/yUsK2KXxHK">https://t.co/yUsK2KXxHK</a></p>— Against Sugar Tax (
AgainstSugarTax) January 8, 2018
Using Seattle's model for sugar soda tax, a 5 lb bag of pure sugar would run $754.98
— ILoveHiltonHead (@ilovehiltonhead) January 7, 2018
Well, that puts it into perspective (note: I have not checked this guy’s math).
Costco are encouraging shoppers put off by the Seattle soda tax to buy their groceries in neighbouring Tukwila. https://t.co/4yXHc71vdv
— Against Sugar Tax (@AgainstSugarTax) January 7, 2018
This is why geographic diversification for a retailer is a good idea.
I may or may not be creating a Seattle soda tax list, like I did with Cook County. We’ll see.
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